If We Knew Then - Down Syndrome Podcast
We are parents of two children and one of them just happens to have Down syndrome. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share stories, break down stereotypes and help change the narrative by redefining Down syndrome.
Episodes

Friday May 13, 2022
100. Celebrating 100 Episodes
Friday May 13, 2022
Friday May 13, 2022
Well here we are! We’ve learned so much in these two years and one hundred episodes and take this time to reflect on this experience and focus on where we go next.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/05/13/100-celebrating-100-episodes/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Friday May 06, 2022
99. Remembering Your Power: Happy Mother’s Day
Friday May 06, 2022
Friday May 06, 2022
Happy Mother’ Day! We dedicate this Mothers Day episode to celebrating your power and strength.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/05/06/99-remembering-your-power-happy-mothers-day/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Friday Apr 15, 2022
Friday Apr 15, 2022
This week we discuss the details of the 2022 Easterseals Disability Film Challenge. We touch upon how and why we created this year's film, what the challenge has meant to our family in the last eight years and how allowing other's to share their stories is the key to true inclusion.
Our Entry’s Youtube Link: https://youtu.be/O_ENIwMCKls
Our Entry’s Website: www.JustForOneDayFilm.com
All Our Previous Entry's: https://ttmaba.com/dfc
The Festival’s Website: https://disabilityfilmchallenge.com
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/04/14/98-the-easterseals-disability-film-challenge-and-the-importance-of-everyones-story-being-told/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Friday Apr 08, 2022
97. Trusting Your Journey and Embracing The Pivot - Karen Maezen Miller
Friday Apr 08, 2022
Friday Apr 08, 2022
In this episode we sit down with Maezen and discuss the different paths this journey has taken us, the pivot in directions we have chosen, how to trust those choices and allow some ease and embrace the gifts.
Maezen’s Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Maezen-Miller/e/B001JP2RQ0/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/04/07/97-trusting-your-journey-and-embracing-the-pivot-karen-maezen-miller/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Friday Apr 01, 2022
96. The Power Of Words: The Words We’ve Learned and How They Give Us Power
Friday Apr 01, 2022
Friday Apr 01, 2022
In this episode we talk about some of the language/words we have learned that have had a profound impact on our journey and more specifically our quest for equality in Liam’s education.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/04/01/96-the-power-of-words-the-words-weve-learned-and-how-they-give-us-power/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Friday Mar 25, 2022
95. Aorta Borealis: Telling His Story Through Music with Jesse Norell
Friday Mar 25, 2022
Friday Mar 25, 2022
In this episode we talk with Jesse Norell whose daughter’s diagnosis of Down syndrome and a heart condition inspired him to write an album. Using music as a cathartic means to heal and find his way through the unknown, Jesse shares his story in hopes of helping others find their song.
Order a CD: https://jessenorell.com/store
For people in the Minneapolis area, Jesse is playing an album release concert on Friday, April 8, 2022. Tickets are here: https://theparkwaytheater.com/all-events/jesse-norell-and-friends
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/03/24/95-aorta-borealis-telling-his-story-through-music-with-jesse-norell/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Friday Mar 18, 2022
Friday Mar 18, 2022
Today we are joined by Dr. Vaish Sarathy to discuss her Non-Linear Education method and to explore the positive affects that assuming intelligence has on all students regardless of presumed abilities.
Non-Linear Education: www.functionalnutritionforkids.com/nonlineareducation
Her TEDx talk "Who decides how smart you are'' where she talked about the value of Assuming Intelligence.
Vaish is a Functional Nutrition Practitioner and Science Educator. She is the founder of Functional Nutrition for Kids, and Plum Pudding Chemistry, both practices designed to optimize the learning potential of kids with Down Syndrome and/or Autism using both Functional Medicine and Non-Linear Education Principles.
She comes to Functional Nutrition with a mission to reframe health, cognition and optimal function for children with disabilities. Her perspective is shaped by her non-speaking 14 year old son, who is (in his words) an Autist with Down Syndrome - a published poet, writer, and budding advocate.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/03/18/94-assuming-intelligence-changing-the-narrative-of-down-syndrome-with-dr-vaish-sarathy/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Friday Mar 11, 2022
Friday Mar 11, 2022
In 1969 Willie Dawkins was finishing first grade when his mother received a letter saying he would be transferring into a desegregated school the following year. In this episode we honor his story, his parents who gave him a foundation of love and support he needed to find his way through an unjust world and the advocates who came before us who fought for equality and laid the groundwork for our fight for inclusion.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/03/11/93-desegregation-and-the-foundational-ingredients-in-the-fight-for-inclusion/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Thursday Feb 24, 2022
92. Liam Turns Twelve: A Mother’s Message
Thursday Feb 24, 2022
Thursday Feb 24, 2022
This week Lori shares thoughts on Liam’s twelfth birthday.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/02/24/92-liam-turns-twelve-a-mothers-message/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Thursday Feb 17, 2022
91. Valentine’s Week: Changing Hearts & Minds About Education
Thursday Feb 17, 2022
Thursday Feb 17, 2022
This week we talk about our personal experience discussing education and inclusion with someone we love who is of the belief that educating our children is asking 'extra' of the school system. We also talk about our new IEP and a story that demonstrates: it is a change of heart that will change the mind that can change the world.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/02/17/91-valentines-week-changing-hearts-minds-about-education/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Thursday Feb 10, 2022
Thursday Feb 10, 2022
This week we are joined by Paul and Kerry Daugherty to discuss Paul’s book about his daughter, Jillian. It is a book we wish we would have found earlier with the beautiful message of “expecting instead of accepting”. Whether you have a person with Down syndrome in your life or not, this book should be one you read and then share with others.
Paul's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Uncomplicated-Life-Fathers-Exceptional-Daughter/dp/0062359959
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/02/10/90-an-uncomplicated-life-a-fathers-memoir-of-his-exceptional-daughter-with-paul-and-kerry-daugherty/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Thursday Feb 03, 2022
89. Inclusion at The Sundance Film Festival
Thursday Feb 03, 2022
Thursday Feb 03, 2022
In this week's episode we discuss perceptions and our experience with Lena Dunham's new film, SHARP STICK, which premiered at the Sundance Film Festival last week and starred Liam Saux. We discuss our concerns with Down syndrome representation, the affects of misperceptions and ultimately the overwhelmingly positive and insightful experience the project was to our entire family.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/02/03/89-inclusion-at-the-sundance-film-festival/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

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All the best to you and please stay in touch. Stephen and Lori Saux