If We Knew Then - Down Syndrome Podcast
We are parents of two children and one of them just happens to have Down syndrome. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share stories, break down stereotypes and help change the narrative by redefining Down syndrome.
Episodes

Sunday Apr 21, 2024
170. Celebrating The Life of Carl Erskine with Ted Green
Sunday Apr 21, 2024
Sunday Apr 21, 2024
The world lost pioneering Down syndrome advocate Carl Erskine on April 16, 2024, at the age of 97. Carl and his wife Betty, were involved deeply with the Special Olympics and charities which aimed at helping people with developmental disabilities such as his son Jimmy. Carl Erskine was a MLB All-Star, World Series Champion, ally of Jackie Robinson and the last surviving member of the “Boys of Summer” Brooklyn teams of the 1950’s. To honor Carl’s life, we revisit our episode with documentarian Ted Green discussing his film ’The Best We’ve Got: The Carl Erskine Story’. As Ted says in this conversation, Carl and Betty are the perfect embodiment of what is on Jackie Robinson’s tombstone.
“A life is not important except for the impact it has on other lives“.
Godspeed Carl.
Website: https://www.carlerskinefilm.com
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/04/21/170-celebrating-the-life-of-carl-erskine-with-ted-green/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Apr 14, 2024
169. The Annual DSDN Retreats with Ben Hughes
Sunday Apr 14, 2024
Sunday Apr 14, 2024
This week we are fortunate to have Ben Hughes back on the podcast to discuss the Down Syndrome Diagnosis Network’s (DSDN) annual “Rockin’ Retreats” that offer our community the connection and respite caregivers truly need.
Retreat information page: https://www.dsdiagnosisnetwork.org/dsdn-retreats
Dad's retreat registration page: https://form.jotform.com/DSDN/2024-rockin-dad-retreat
Mom's retreat registration page: https://form.jotform.com/DSDN/2024-rockin-mom-retreat
DSDN website: https://www.dsdiagnosisnetwork.org/
DSDN Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/DownSyndromeDiagnosisNetwork
DSDN main fundraising page: https://dsdn.networkforgood.com/projects/201851-2024-dsdn-rockin-fundraising
A link to Ben’s personal DSDN fundraising page: https://dsdn.networkforgood.com/projects/207713-ben-hughes-s-fundraiser
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/04/14/169-the-annual-dsdn-retreats-with-ben-hughes/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Thursday Mar 07, 2024
168. Liam's 14th Birthday: Sharing Some Insight
Thursday Mar 07, 2024
Thursday Mar 07, 2024
Our son turned 14 last weekend and in this episode we reflect on the joys, challenges and growth we've experienced together on this journey with Liam.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/03/09/168-liams-14th-birthday-sharing-some-insight/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Feb 25, 2024
167. A Discussion About Using The R-Word with Lynette Louise
Sunday Feb 25, 2024
Sunday Feb 25, 2024
This week we revisit our interview with Lynette Louise who is board certified in Neurofeedback. We were very interested in the science of Neurofeedback but early on in the conversation we moved to a serious discussion about the use of the r-word and the reasons why Lynette uses it. This episode may feel a bit intense for many of you and we understand why, but we highly recommend listening all the way through to the end.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/02/25/167-a-discussion-about-using-the-r-word-with-lynette-louise/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Feb 18, 2024
166. Finding The Right Supports Without Shame - Julie Picot
Sunday Feb 18, 2024
Sunday Feb 18, 2024
This week we have the wonderful Julie Picot back on the show to discuss her experience transitioning her daughter, Elyse from TK to Kindergarten. We also touch upon how very often parents feel shame when guiding their school aged children out of diapers.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/02/17/166-finding-the-right-supports-without-shame-with-julie-picot/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Jan 28, 2024
165. Picking The Right Pediatrician with Dr. Ilona Kleiner
Sunday Jan 28, 2024
Sunday Jan 28, 2024
Dr. Ilona Kleiner has been both our children's pediatrician since birth. Today we discuss with her the importance of always seeing the whole child and how her care for Liam really isn't any different than that of a typical child.
Dr. Kleiner's Bio: https://www.pamgdocs.com/copy-of-about-our-doctors-1
Recommend books:
What’s Going on Down There? by Karen Gravelle
What’s Happening to My Body by Lyna Madras
Guy Stuff by Cara Natterson
It’s Perfectly Normal by Robin Harris
Being You: The Body Image Book by Charlotte Markey
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/01/28/165-picking-the-right-pediatrician-with-dr-ilona-kleiner/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Jan 21, 2024
164. Charlotte and Riley: Not Taking No For An Answer
Sunday Jan 21, 2024
Sunday Jan 21, 2024
In this episode, we discuss Charlotte Fien’s path to advocacy, breaking down the barriers of education, the love story between her and her husband Riley, and how her infectious can-do attitude has influenced him to break down barriers in his own life. It is the story of two humans creating the life they want to live and never taking no for an answer.
Charlotte & Riley Forever FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/autismintune
A World Without Down’s Syndrome (Documentary): https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07MSHKFKQ/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r
Charlotte’s Speeches:
2017 United Nations: https://youtu.be/1Xqku6RwaAY?si=KYf7jnx-Uc56cgRP
2018 United Nations: https://youtu.be/FHglwa8vlYg?si=hwjusGDIsVSh5_ty
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/01/21/164-charlotte-and-riley-not-taking-no-for-an-answer/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Jan 14, 2024
163. Revisiting Patience In The New Year with Maezen Miller
Sunday Jan 14, 2024
Sunday Jan 14, 2024
Happy Martin Luther King Day! We start this new year by revisiting with our friend, Zen Buddhist Priest, Maezen Miller. We discuss having patience and letting go in order for it to all unfold. Believing and having patience can enable our children to be who they are, go where they go and do what they do, to become exactly who they are.
Karen Maezen Miller: https://karenmaezenmiller.com
Maezen’s Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Maezen-Miller/e/B001JP2RQ0/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1
Steve & Michel Gleason Foundation: https://teamgleason.org
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/01/14/163-revisiting-patience-in-the-new-year-with-maezen-miller/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Oct 22, 2023
162. Living In The Moment and Taking the Time to Reflect On Life
Sunday Oct 22, 2023
Sunday Oct 22, 2023
Follow Stephen while he unexpectedly flies back to Louisiana due to his mother’s illness. He reflects on the importance of experiencing all of life’s moments and truly being present.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/22/162-living-in-the-moment/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Oct 15, 2023
Sunday Oct 15, 2023
October is Down Syndrome Awareness Month and in this episode, Stephen and Lori discuss another angle in your next Awareness Campaign. Some of the most important people to make aware of our community's potential are educational professionals. We as parents can advocate but it just might be our children who change the minds of those in charge of their education.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/14/161-down-syndrome-awareness-month-2023-bringing-awareness-to-our-communitys-potential/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Oct 08, 2023
160. The Inclusive Hub: A Gym For People of All Abilities with Liam Starkey
Sunday Oct 08, 2023
Sunday Oct 08, 2023
Joining us today is Liam Starkey from The Inclusive Hub. The Hub was started in 2016 helping small groups of Autistic children around Liverpool, England take part in non-contact boxing and fitness sessions. It has now expanded and continues to empower people of all ages and abilities through exercise.
Website: www.theinclusivehub.co.uk
Order a tee shirt: transalpino.co.uk
Twitter: https://twitter.com/liamstarkey84
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_inclusive_hub/?hl=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RotundaInclusiveHub
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/08/160-the-inclusive-hub/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

Sunday Oct 01, 2023
159. DSALA and DSC2U: Supporting Our Spanish-Speaking Community
Sunday Oct 01, 2023
Sunday Oct 01, 2023
Today we are joined by Sandra Baker from the Down Syndrome Association of Los Angeles (DSALA) and Dr. Brian Skotko from the Down Syndrome Clinic To You (DSC2U) to discuss their collaboration in supporting Spanish-Speaking families that have a member with Down syndrome.
DSC2U: www.DSC2U.org
DSALA: www.DSALA.org
DSALA Contact:
(818) 786-0001
info@DSALA.org
NOTES FROM DR. SKOTKO:
We have written a summary paper for the lay audience to help them access and understand all of our research findings (available in English and Spanish).
We have created ready-to-go Facebook posts (English and Spanish) and Twitter posts (English and Spanish), summarizing our research findings.
We also developed this Awareness Building event toolkit, so that Down syndrome groups can continue to host meaningful diversity dialogues in their community. We provide ready-to-go materials and easy action steps.
Albert Pless and I gave Grand Rounds at UCSF Benioff Children's Hospital and our own MGH Genetics Division about our research findings. The recording for this presentation is available for viewing.
Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/01/159-dsala-and-dsc2u/2/
Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

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All the best to you and please stay in touch. Stephen and Lori Saux